MakeIndex, Nomenclature, Glossaries and Acronyms

murraye · Post by **murraye** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:18 pm

My document uses a command modifying the usual indexing "see" command in order to surround the entire "see..." phrase in parentheses. When I run the document through pdflatexmk, I'm getting a spurious page number there. (The ordinary "see" command doesn't do this.) What's wrong?

In the following MWE, the "see" correctly gives index entry "zero, see zero elements". But the "seeonly" entry gives "additive identity (see zero elements), 1". The ", 1" are the spurious text.

(Some years ago, when I used just such a command, that kind of spurious text did not appear.)

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\documentclass{article}
\newcommand{\seeonly}[1]{(\emph{see} #1)}
\usepackage{makeidx}\makeindex
\begin{document}
This is a very short book. It's about zero.\index{zero elements}
\index{zero|see{zero elements}}
\index{additive identity \seeonly{zero elements}}
\printindex
\end{document}
 
 
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Post by **localghost** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:25 pm

The command needs two arguments.

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\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{makeidx}
\makeindex
\newcommand{\seeonly}[2]{(\emph{see} #1)}
\begin{document}
  This is a very short book. It's about zero.\index{zero elements}
  \index{zero|see{zero elements}}
  \index{additive identity \seeonly{zero elements}}
  \printindex
\end{document}
 
 
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For an explanation see Section 4.2 of the makeidx manual. Consider to use the more sophisticated imakeidx package instead.

Thorsten

murraye · Post by **murraye** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:54 pm

localghost wrote:The command needs two arguments.

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\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{makeidx}
\makeindex
\newcommand{\seeonly}[2]{(\emph{see} #1)}
\begin{document}
  This is a very short book. It's about zero.\index{zero elements}
  \index{zero|see{zero elements}}
  \index{additive identity \seeonly{zero elements}}
  \printindex
\end{document}
 
 
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For an explanation see Section 4.2 of the makeidx manual. Consider to use the more sophisticated imakeidx package instead.

Thorsten

That change does not change the fault I'm seeing: the spurious page number still appears in "additive identity (see zero elements) 1".

Yes, I deleted all auxiliary files before running this again with the change. (In fact, I directly copied and pasted the above code to replace what I had.)

Post by **cgnieder** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:58 pm

You need to use it like this:

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\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{makeidx}
\makeindex
\newcommand{\seeonly}[2]{(\emph{see} #1)}
\begin{document}
  This is a very short book. It's about zero.\index{zero elements}
  \index{zero|see{zero elements}}
  \index{additive identity|seeonly{zero elements}}%<= watch the usage here
  \printindex
\end{document}
 
 
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Regards

murraye · Post by **murraye** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:24 pm

cgnieder wrote:You need to use it like this:

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\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{makeidx}
\makeindex
\newcommand{\seeonly}[2]{(\emph{see} #1)}
\begin{document}
  This is a very short book. It's about zero.\index{zero elements}
  \index{zero|see{zero elements}}
  \index{additive identity|seeonly{zero elements}}%<= watch the usage here
  \printindex
\end{document}
 
 
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That correction does suppress the unwanted page number. However, it still causes printing of an unwanted comma: "additive identity, (see zero elements)"

Post by **cgnieder** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:28 pm

Yes, as this is set by makeindex.

When this is used

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makeindex sets the code specified by

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It's default definition is ", " including a space after the comma.

You can try the following (untested):

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\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{makeidx}
\newcommand\gobbletwo[2]{}
\newcommand*\seeonly[2]{(\emph{see} #1)}
\makeindex
\begin{document}
  This is a very short book. It's about zero.\index{zero elements}
  \index{zero|see{zero elements}}
  \index{additive identity \seeonly{zero elements}|gobbletwo}
  \printindex
\end{document}
 
 
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Regards

murraye · Post by **murraye** » Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:38 am

The solution using macro \gobbletwo works just fine. Thank you!

The same ruse works with commands for "(see also...)" and "See also..." , as shown below.

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\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{makeidx}
\makeindex
\newcommand\gobbletwo[2]{}
\newcommand*{\seeonly}[2]{(\emph{see} #1)}
\newcommand*{\also}[2]{(\emph{see also} #1)}
\newcommand{\Also}[2]{\emph{See also} #1}
\begin{document}
  This is a short book. It's about zero.\index{zero elements}
  
  \index{zero|see{zero elements}}
  \index{elements}
 \index{additive identity \seeonly{zero elements}|gobbletwo}
 Therefore, it's also about nothing.\index{nothing}
 \index{nothing!\also{zero elements}|gobbletwo}
 
  That's the same as zilch.\index{zilch}
 \index{zilch!\Also{nothing}|gobbletwo}
\printindex
\end{document}
 
 
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murraye · Post by **murraye** » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:02 pm

Did the functionality of makeindex change markedly since 1997? I ask because when I last used it then while typesetting a book, I did not have to resort to ruses such as were suggested here and do work. Rather, I could use the versions of \seeonly and \also that I originally showed in my first posts.

Post by **cgnieder** » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:06 pm

I honestly can't tell as I've used makeindex the first time only a few years ago. Also I only ever used the \see command… sorry.

Regards

murraye · Post by **murraye** » Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:55 pm

Alas, all is not well with the proposed solution using \gobbletwo afer all. After each use of \seeonly, \also or \Also that involve \gobbletwo, the next index entry is printed run-on to the end of that "see also" or "See also" line. Here's the source:

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\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{makeidx}
\makeindex
\newcommand\gobbletwo[2]{}
\newcommand*{\seeonly}[2]{(\emph{see} #1)}
\newcommand*{\also}[2]{(\emph{see also} #1)}
\newcommand{\Also}[2]{\emph{See also} #1}
\begin{document}
This is a short book. It's about zero.
\index{zero elements}
\index{zero \seeonly{zero elements}|gobbletwo}
\index{additive identity \seeonly{zero elements}|gobbletwo}
\index{additive subtraction}
Therefore, it's also about nothing.
\index{nothing}
\index{nothing!zz@\also{zero elements}|gobbletwo}
Which means null.
\index{null}\index{nothing!nil}
That's the same as zilch.
\index{zilch}
\index{zilch!zero}
\index{zilch!\Also{nothing}|gobbletwo}
 
 \newpage
 Another name for zilch is nil.\index{zilch}
\printindex
\end{document}
 
 
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The printed index looks roughly like this (in the proper font, and with "see", "see also", and "See also" in italics, of course):

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additive identity (see zero elements) ad-
               ditive subraction, 1
nothing, 1
      nil, 1
      (see also zero elements) null, 1
zero (see zero elements) zero elements,
               1
zilch, 1, 2
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Notice how the top-level entry "additive subtraction" is run-on with the preceding entry. Likewise the top-level entries "null" and "zero elements".

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MakeIndex, Nomenclature, Glossaries and Acronyms ⇒ modified "see" command adds spurious page number

modified "see" command adds spurious page number

modified "see" command adds spurious page number

modified "see" command adds spurious page number

modified "see" command adds spurious page number

modified "see" command adds spurious page number

modified "see" command adds spurious page number

modified "see" command adds spurious page number

modified "see" command adds spurious page number

modified "see" command adds spurious page number

modified "see" command adds spurious page number