Fonts & Character Sets ⇒ babel | Turn off Translations

[John Kiouvrekis]

I would like to know if there is an option which stops the automatically translation of the babel package because it messes with other packages and I get various problems with it. For example the following code

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\documentclass[12pt]{article}
\usepackage[english,greek]{babel}
\usepackage[iso-8859-7]{inputenc}
\usepackage{gfsartemisia-euler}
\usepackage{eqexam}

\begin{document}
  \begin{exam}[dd]{ss}
    \begin{problem*}
      \begin{multicols}{3}
        \begin{parts}
          \item mpla mlpa mlpa mlpa $\displaystyle \sum_{2}X_{e}$
          \item $\displaystyle \sum_{2}X_{e}$
          \item $\displaystyle \sum_{2}X_{e}$
          \item mpla mlpa mlpa mlpa $\displaystyle \sum_{2}X_{e}$
          \item $\displaystyle \sum_{2}X_{e}$
          \item $\displaystyle \sum_{2}X_{e}$
        \end{parts}
      \end{multicols}
      text
    \end{problem*}
  \end{exam}
  \begin{enumerate}
    \item \textlatin{ number} 
    \begin{enumerate}
      \item \textlatin{This is not right} 
    \end{enumerate}
  \end{enumerate}
\end{document}

has this result

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The lists should not be in Greek but in English. This happens also in other packages which have definitions in English even with simple lists like {enumerate} , for example exsheets or svmono (Springer class for books).

[localghost]

Swap the language options for babel.

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\usepackage[greek,english]{babel}

The last option determines the default document language. For details please refer to the package manual.


Best regards and welcome to the board
Thorsten

[John Kiouvrekis]

Obvious you didn't understand my question. I want Greek to be the default language of the document and not English. It's very annoying to put

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\greektext ελληνικο κειμενο = this is greek text

or

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\textgreek{αυτο ειναι ενα ελληνικο κειμενο} 

in every entry of Greek text.
With that way, the definition of new environment becomes intractable.
Ιt would be nice to be able to type directly in Greek.

[cgnieder]

Welcome to the LaTeX community!

If I understand you correctly you want something like

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\renewcommand\theenumii{\foreignlanguage{english}{\alph{enumii}}}

The counter used for enumerations in the second depth is enumii and called by {enumerate} with \thenumii. The redefinition above changes the language just for this call.

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\documentclass[12pt]{article}
\usepackage[english,polutonikogreek]{babel}
\usepackage[iso-8859-7]{inputenc}
\usepackage{gfsartemisia-euler}

\renewcommand{\theenumii}{\foreignlanguage{english}{\alph{enumii}}}
\begin{document}


\begin{enumerate}
 \item \textlatin{ number}
 \begin{enumerate}
  \item \textlatin{This is not right}
 \end{enumerate}
\end{enumerate}

\end{document}

greekenumii.png (4.53 KiB) Viewed 7852 times

Regards

[John Kiouvrekis]

Ηi, i think that the problem is deeper. For example, babel messes with your package, exsheets.

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\documentclass[10pt,a4paper,twocolumn]{article}
\usepackage[english,greek]{babel}
\usepackage[iso-8859-7]{inputenc}
\usepackage{gfsartemisia-euler}
\usepackage[load-headings,headings=runin]{exsheets}
\begin{document}
\section{Πρωτη ενοτητα}
μπλα
\section{Δευτερη Ενοτητα}
\[\sum_{i=1}^{\infty}X_{i}\int f(x)\cdot g(x)\]
\SetupExSheets{counter-format=\thesection~qu[a]}
\begin{question}[name = ασκηση]
\[\sum_{i=1}^{\infty}X_{i}\int f(x)\cdot g(x)\]
\end{question}
\end{document}

The problem is at the counter output.
I can use this command in the text

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\foreignlanguage{english}{\SetupExSheets{counter-format=\thesection~qu[a]}}

But i think that would be tedious (if not impossible) to do that for all the packages which i use.
For example, if i do not define the name of the question

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\documentclass[10pt,a4paper,twocolumn]{article}
\usepackage[english,greek]{babel}
\usepackage[iso-8859-7]{inputenc}
\usepackage{gfsartemisia-euler}
\usepackage[load-headings,headings=runin]{exsheets}
\begin{document}
\SetupExSheets{counter-format=\thesection~qu[a]}
\begin{question}
\[\sum_{i=1}^{\infty}X_{i}\int f(x)\cdot g(x)\]
\end{question}
\end{document}

the output is

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(babel translate by letter)

Ιn conclusion can i define babel so that not messes with other packages but only with the pure text?
@cgnieder (off topic) Is XeTeX better with exsheets than babel?

[cgnieder]

No, this is exactly the same problem.

This happens every time you want to call a counter with format \alph{counter}. {enumerate} uses it and so does exsheets when you format the counter with argument [a]. The best way, IMHO, would be to define a command \englishalph, its low level equivalent \english@alph, and in case of exsheets a counter pattern for it:

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\documentclass[10pt,a4paper,twocolumn]{article}
\usepackage[english,greek]{babel}
\usepackage[iso-8859-7]{inputenc}
\usepackage{gfsartemisia-euler}
\usepackage[load-headings,headings=runin]{exsheets}

\makeatletter
\newcommand*\english@alph[1]{\foreignlanguage{english}{\@alph{#1}}}
\newcommand*\englishalph[1]{\expandafter\english@alph\csname c@#1\endcsname}
\NewPatternFormat{ea}{\english@alph}
\makeatother

% let `exsheets' use the new pattern:
\SetupExSheets{counter-format=se~qu[ea]}

% renew enumii:
\renewcommand*\theenumii{\englishalph{enumii}}

\begin{document}
\section{Πρωτη ενοτητα}
μπλα
\section{Δευτερη Ενοτητα}
\[\sum_{i=1}^{\infty}X_{i}\int f(x)\cdot g(x)\]

\begin{question}[name = ασκηση]
\[\sum_{i=1}^{\infty}X_{i}\int f(x)\cdot g(x)\]
\end{question}

\begin{enumerate}
 \item foo
 \begin{enumerate}
  \item bar
 \end{enumerate}
\end{enumerate}

\end{document}

Best regards

BTW:

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\foreignlanguage{english}{\SetupExSheets{counter-format=\thesection~qu[a]}}

wouldn't work, anyway, since the language settings is long been changed again the next time \alph is actually called. TeX macros are -- well -- macros, i.e., they simply are replaced by their definition. That also holds when the definition is hidden in some fancy call like \SetupExSheets{counter-format=qu[a]}.

[cgnieder]

Regarding the name of the questions: if you don not rename them you should get the following warning in your log file:

Package translations Warning: Translation for `exsheets-exercise-name' in greek unknown.

This is because I do not speak Greek and was unable to provide a translation. You can however provide a translation yourself, see section 5.3.6 of the manual.

Regards

[cgnieder]

I'm sure you simply missed the section of the board rules which states that one should provide a direct link if one makes a crosspost (here it is: http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/ ... n-of-babel)

Regards