BibTeX, biblatex and biber ⇒ fancyref / bibtex: "&" instead of "and"

[eisegal]

Hello all,

I'm having a problem concerning the referencing with bibtex. using the bibliographystyle i get the desired output if there is one author Name (year) or three or more authors Name et al. (year)

but for two authors i have the problem, that here is a & between the two authors instead of a simple "and". could someone tell me how to change this?

i've been looking for a solution for hours now...

greetings

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\documentclass[12pt,oneside,a4paper,english]{article}

%packages
\usepackage[english]{babel}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage{framed}
\usepackage{graphicx}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\usepackage[english]{fancyref}
\usepackage{fancyhdr}
\usepackage{enumerate}
\usepackage{amsmath}
\usepackage{geometry}
\usepackage{hyperref}
\usepackage{cite}
\usepackage{natbib}

\begin{document}

\pagestyle{fancy}

\subsection{Model}
Hier wird später ein Text verfasst gemäss \cite{JT:05}. Wir warten noch auf eine definitive Antwort \cite{Dia:83}, welche wir aus blabla \cite{Bry:80}.

\bibliographystyle{authordate1}
\bibliography{myBib.bib}

\end{document}

[cgnieder]

Hi eisegal,

Welcome to the LaTeX community!

Next time please consider giving us a complete minimal working example (MWE)! We don't have your bib file for example. So in order to help you (when we don't know the answer right away) we now need to build an MWE for ourselves. This is tedious, boring and (not in this case but in others) may not reveal the source of the problem. The probability of getting an answer is much higher with a proper MWE.

To your problem: this has nothing todo with fancyref. The ampersand is hardwired into the authordate1 style. The easiest way to change the appearence is to redefine \&:

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\documentclass{article}

%packages
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\usepackage{natbib}

% save ampersand for other uses:
\let\ampersand\&
% let \& to give ``und''
\renewcommand*\&{und}

% the bib file for the MWE:
\usepackage{filecontents}
\begin{filecontents}{\jobname.bib}
@article{author12,
  author  = {A. Author and B. Buthor},
  title   = {Alpha},
  journal = {A journal},
  year    = {2012}
}
@article{buthor12,
  author  = {B. Buthor},
  title   = {Beta},
  journal = {B journal},
  year    = {2012}
}
@article{cuthor12,
  author  = {C. Cuthor and A. Author},
  title   = {Gamma},
  journal = {C journal},
  year    = {2012}
}
\end{filecontents}

\begin{document}

Hier wird später ein Text verfasst gemäss \cite{author12}. Wir warten noch auf
eine definitive Antwort \cite{buthor12}, welche wir aus blabla \cite{cuthor12}.

\bibliographystyle{authordate1}
\bibliography{\jobname.bib}

\end{document}

Regards

[CrazyHorse]

I'm having a problem concerning the referencing with bibtex. using the bibliographystyle i get the desired output if there is one author Name (year) or three or more authors Name et al. (year)

but for two authors i have the problem, that here is a & between the two authors instead of a simple "and". could someone tell me how to change this?

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...
\subsection{Model}
Hier wird später ein Text verfasst gemäss \cite{JT:05}. Wir warten noch auf eine definitive Antwort \cite{Dia:83}, welche wir aus blabla \cite{Bry:80}.

\bibliographystyle{authordate1}
\bibliography{myBib.bib}

\end{document}

use:

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\begingroup
\renewcommand*\&{und}
\bibliographystyle{authordate1}
\bibliography{\jobname.bib}
\endgroup

[cgnieder]

Won't this change the ampersand only in the bibliography but not in the citations as well?

[eisegal]

I know the thing about MWE but i thought it would be too long also adding the bib-file.

with your solution it works well but then every \& is redefined... is there a solution without \bibliographystyle{authordate1} using fancyref?

[cgnieder]

with your solution it works well but then every \& is redefined... is there a solution without \bibliographystyle{authordate1} using fancyref?

I'm going to repeat myself: fancyref has nothing to do with this. you can use it or not. It won't affect the bibliography.

Regards

[eisegal]

with your solution it works well but then every \& is redefined... is there a solution without \bibliographystyle{authordate1} using fancyref?

I'm going to repeat myself: fancyref has nothing to do with this. you can use it or not. It won't affect the bibliography.

Regards

as you've already said, it has nothing to do with fancyref. this solution is ok but i hope that there is one, where you have another bibliographystyle and don't have to redefine the ampersand.

[cgnieder]

There are lots of other styles. The solution (and if a definition is necessary or not) depends on your needs for the style. Have you read the natbib manual for available styles with natbib?

Regards

[eisegal]

yes i did. we'll, thank you for your help

[cgnieder]

And none of the other styles fit your needs? Would switching to biblatex be a choice?

Regards