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expl3: don't understand behavior of tl_if_novalue:nTF

Postby erwann » Sun May 06, 2018 2:13 am

Before opening a ticket bug I'd like to make sure it is one indeed.
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  1. \documentclass{minimal}
  2. \usepackage{expl3}
  3. \ExplSyntaxOn
  4. \begin{document}
  5. \tl_if_novalue:nTF{\c_novalue_tl}{PASS}{FAIL} % prints FAIL
  6. \ExplSyntaxOff
  7. \end{document}
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Postby zauguin » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:06 pm

Actually this is the expected behaviour even if the documentation is a bit misleading:

\tl_if_novalue:nTF tests if the token list is exactly equal to \c_novalue_tl, meaning equal to the special token list which is stored inside \c_novalue_tl. This is not the same as {c_novalue_tl}, the token list consisting of exactly one token, \c_novalue_tl itself.

So if you would use a V style argument instead to compare the value of \c_novalue_tl, you get the expected behaviour:

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  1. \documentclass{minimal}
  2. \usepackage{expl3}
  3. \ExplSyntaxOn
  4. \begin{document}
  5. \cs_generate_variant:Nn \tl_if_novalue:nTF { VTF }
  6. \tl_if_novalue:VTF \c_novalue_tl {PASS}{FAIL} % prints PASS
  7. \ExplSyntaxOff
  8. \end{document}

In most actual use cases the normal behaviour is fine: The novalue marker is passed mostly passed as an argument to your macro, then you can write e.g. \tl_if_novalue:nTF{#1}{PASS}{FAIL} because the argument is not wrapped in a macro/variable.

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