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ihavenomuffins
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Using Greek, Hebrew and Accents in the same Document?

Postby ihavenomuffins » Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:46 pm

Hello,

My goal is to be able to typeset the following sentence (taken from Wikipedia)
The Book of Genesis (from Greek γένεσις meaning "origin"; Hebrew: בְּרֵאשִׁית‎, Brʾeišyt, "In the beginning"), is the first book of the Hebrew Bible and the Christian Old Testament.


Using the cjhebrew package, the Hebrew works well, but the accents in Brʾeišyt don't work in addition to the Greek text being missing.

  1. \documentclass{article}
  2. \usepackage{cjhebrew}
  3.  
  4. \begin{document}
  5. The Book of Genesis (from Greek γένεσις meaning "origin"; Hebrew: \begin{cjhebrew}בְּרֵאשִׁית‎\end{cjhebrew}, Brʾeišyt, "In the beginning"), is the first book of the Hebrew Bible and the Christian Old Testament.
  6. \end{document}

Using the babel package, the Greek and accents work well, but then cjhebrew package no longer works. The Hebrew option in the babel package doesn't seem to be compatible with Unicode (though the Greek is).

(This is with Greek from babel and Hebrew from cjhebrew.)
  1. \documentclass{article}
  2. \usepackage{cjhebrew}
  3. \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
  4. \usepackage[greek,english]{babel}
  5. \usepackage{ucs}
  6.  
  7. \begin{document}
  8. The Book of Genesis (from Greek \selectlanguage{greek}γένεσις \selectlanguage{english}meaning "origin"; Hebrew: \begin{cjhebrew}בְּרֵאשִׁית‎\end{cjhebrew}, Brʾeišyt, "In the beginning"), is the first book of the Hebrew Bible and the Christian Old Testament.
  9. \end{document}

I get errors that looks like this (lots):
  1. ! Undefined control sequence.
  2. \u-default-1489 #1->\hebbet
  3.  
  4. l.12 ...aning "origin"; Hebrew: \begin{cjhebrew}ב
  5. ְּרֵאשִׁית‎\en...

Is there a way to tell babel to ignore everything inside certain environments?

I've also tried to use XeTeX and XeLaTeX, but I can't get MiKTeX 2.9 to install any of the requisite packages, in particular expl3 which fails in the package manager with
  1. MiKTeX Problem Report
  2. Message: Unknown archive file size.
  3. Data: expl3
  4. Source: libraries\miktex\packagemanager\internal.h
  5. Line: 909
  6. MiKTeX: 2.9
  7. OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition, 64-bit Service Pack 1 (build 7601)
  8. Invokers: explorer
  9. SystemAdmin: yes
  10. PowerUser: no
  11. Root0: C:\Users\Doug\AppData\Roaming\MiKTeX\2.9
  12. Root1: C:\Users\Doug\AppData\Local\MiKTeX\2.9
  13. Root2: C:\ProgramData\MiKTeX\2.9
  14. Root3: C:\Program Files (x86)\MiKTeX 2.9
  15. UserInstall: C:\Users\Doug\AppData\Roaming\MiKTeX\2.9
  16. UserConfig: C:\Users\Doug\AppData\Roaming\MiKTeX\2.9
  17. UserData: C:\Users\Doug\AppData\Local\MiKTeX\2.9
  18. CommonInstall: C:\Program Files (x86)\MiKTeX 2.9
  19. CommonConfig: C:\ProgramData\MiKTeX\2.9
  20. CommonData: C:\ProgramData\MiKTeX\2.9

Another possible solution I think would be a method of converting Unicode to escape sequences, but I know of no way to do this.

I've tried to do due diligence before posting on the forum by searching here, CTAN, and Google, but I could just be missing something simple. Any help or guidance would be appreciated. Thank you.

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Postby localghost » Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:04 am

ihavenomuffins wrote:[…] I've also tried to use XeTeX and XeLaTeX, but I can't get MiKTeX 2.9 to install any of the requisite packages, in particular expl3 which fails in the package manager […]

The packages related to experimental LaTeX3 code have been rearranged. Start the MiKTeX Package Manager (MPM) and synchronize the package database (see attachment). Afterwards you should find the bundles l3experimental, l3kernel and l3packages in the package list of the MPM. Select them for installation and then click "+" in the tool-bar to start the installation process.


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Postby ihavenomuffins » Tue Jul 19, 2011 6:06 pm

Thanks for the reply - that fixed the issue with the l3 packages, but not I have a few more issues like that - don't worry, I won't clog this board with what are likely trivial issues arising from my inexperience with MiKTeX, I'll go do that on their forums. =P

I'm assuming that XeTeX/XeLaTeX will, in the end, be able to do what I want from what I've read on the internet (in that a key feature of XeTeX is better Unicode support). That being said, I'm interested in solutions that would work with LaTeX as that is the system I am more comfortable working with. (I'm attempting to typeset a Bible to learn LaTeX better, so I don't want to run from these issues and just get a bare-minimum working solution. I figure that in the course of such a project that I will run into numerous issues I don't normally encounter when writing math-based-article-format documents.)

Thanks.

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Postby ExecutorElassus » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:03 am

MikTex appears to be windows-only. I'm using Lyx on a Linux system, and the KOMA-Script library. Is there a way to typeset Arabic and Hebrew (and, what I suspect will also be useful for typesetting the bible, polytonic Greek) correctly on such a system? I can get Hebrew to render properly only under certain circumstances, and Arabic not at all (though polytonic Greek works just fine).

Thanks

EE


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